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@selzero um, just like early american settlers, followed by the US government?

How shall we change how America has treated indigenous tribes as illuminated by your statement?

@gfjacobs exactly the point of my post :)

@selzero not to mention that the people about whom you wrote that are NOT indigenous. They are Arabs whom the other arab countries MADE into refugees for 65 years after they tried to kill the state of Israel in its infancy.

@selzero and have dedicated themselves to destroying Israel and killing all jews therein.

Somebody threatens you, then invades, rapes and kills your people.

What are you gonna do?

@gfjacobs even if you give me a million dollars I'm not going to claim the answer is "massacre thousands of innocent people".

@selzero so on that point we agree

So why are you not outraged by the murder that precipitated it?

*<perplexed>*

@gfjacobs

Of course I am!! Where did you get that I am not?

But the second one is ONGOING and we are powerless to stop it, and OUR GOVERNMENTS ARE BACKING IT MAKING US COMPLICIT IN MASS MURDER. That's where the major frustration is coming from.

@selzero i did miss this one, and I wanted to acknowledge it.

I recognize that you are not being one sided about it, but it's clear to me (not how I feel, mind you) that the only way around this is through, and the only sad way through depends on what the Netanyahu government does, and I cannot say that this inspires any hope.

@gfjacobs @selzero

The only way around this is... through??

What is that supposed to mean?

"This" is genocide and ethnic cleansing. If we don't stop it, the only way is THROUGH the bodies of thousands and thousands more civilians.

And that's not a way "out" of a damn thing. The only place that gets us, is a nightmare future flooded with rivers of blood-- because the war profiteers glutting themselves on this and getting away with it WILL NOT STOP with the Palestinians.