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"Israel has to be called out, you can't just walk onto some land, start killing the indigenous population, forcing them to live in tiny pockets, while you make up a new country, set your own laws, and put up borders as if it's all yours and no one else can come in"

The USA:

@selzero um, just like early american settlers, followed by the US government?

How shall we change how America has treated indigenous tribes as illuminated by your statement?

@gfjacobs exactly the point of my post :)

@selzero not to mention that the people about whom you wrote that are NOT indigenous. They are Arabs whom the other arab countries MADE into refugees for 65 years after they tried to kill the state of Israel in its infancy.

@gfjacobs

Erm.

No.

Palestinians are indigenous. 😬

Netanyahu is not indigenous to that area. He is Russian.

You are beginning to sound like the crazies that come on here claiming that Europeans were in North America before the native Americans.

@selzero they are as indigenous as any tribal, nomadic people.

There have never been a palestinian 'nation' or race.

I do not believe that justifies Israel murdering back, and i have been respectful and am making a reasoned argument, so please do not call me crazy.

Please be respectful back.

@selzero meanwhile a Jewish claim on the land is biblically justified, to whatever extent one might believe that the Bible is literal truth.

Being thrown into a diaspora because of centuries of others determined to kill you and your people, and reclaiming land that was promised by God is a justification as powerful as you saying well, they were living there and that makes them indigenous, so by what right do you displace them?

In that context, your argument cannot stand, either.

@gfjacobs Biblically justified claim on land 🫣

In the same way slavery was justified by the curse of Ham?

The same way the Spanish inquisitions were justified?

You know what we call the period we allowed everything to be "Biblically justified"?

The dark ages.

@selzero @gfjacobs Hey, I have this book that says the entire planet is mine.

I demand that y'all hand it over, now.

@alan @gfjacobs

I have a Calvanist version of that book that says it's mine!

@selzero @gfjacobs Hm.. maybe we should form an association of people with similar claims and work it out diplomatically, on the basis that anyone engaging in violence has their claim automatically and irrevocably nullified.

@selzero @gfjacobs Tempting, but whoever did that would then be guilty of committing a violent act...